Groove Development: 11-09-2018 (2 Bar Double Time Groove Switching From 5/8 To 7/8)

A double time feel part that moves between multiple time signatures.

On this page you will learn a two bar groove with a double time feel that switches from 5/8 to 7/8. This starts with a level 2 style part and adds in various offbeat sixteenth kick and fills. There will be five modifications made to the start groove, each of which makes the part more difficult. It is also worth noting that each step creates its own perfectly decent sounding groove. In each step a link to the original lesson of the concept applied is provided where appropriate, it is worth sidetracking and working through these lessons if you either get stuck or don't understand a particular step.

It's important you can play the step you are on comfortably at a decent tempo before progressing as any parts you get stuck on are going to appear in all subsequent steps. On the last page you will find a list of helpful links, suggestions for other concepts that could be applied and a set of target tempos.

The general idea behind this part is that the second bar is a slightly longer version of the first bar. This is a very common idea in progressive genres but can be applied to many styles of music.

You can also download a version of this lesson in PDF format. In this pack you also get two extra steps in the groove construction process, three sets of eight bar phrases using the final groove as a basis and audio files in MP3 format of all drum parts. This also includes a drumless version of the backing track for you to play a long to. You can purchase this for just $2 by clicking the button below.

NOTE that the file size of this pack is 14.2MB.


Step 1

A two bar pattern with a Double Time feel starting in 5/8 and switching To 7/8. This obviously means the second bar has two extra quaver counts than the first and your focus at this stage should be on the switch between the two time signatures. This is one of those times when counting becomes really useful!

At the end of the first bar a single eighth note hi hat is played on its own and in the second bar there are two, in the next couple of steps these will be replaced with a simple sixteenth note snare fill which will be a main feature of the part.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature


Step 2

As mentioned in the last step, one of the main features of this groove will be short bursts of sixteenth notes At The End Of Each Bar. The first of these is added here by replacing the hi hat on the '5' count in the first bar with two sixteenth note snares. This movement will have been common in 4/4 patterns but will feel different in the shorter time signature. The two sixteenth snares will be played as single strokes.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature


Step 3

A similar fill is added in the second bar which imitates that found in the first but Doubles Up The Number Of Notes. As before, this movement was common in 4/4 parts but will have a very different feel in this time signature. The second bar should now start to sound like a slightly extended version of the first. Single strokes will be used here too.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature


Step 4

In both bars, a Sixteenth Note Kick is added on the '+' after count 3. This is actually a placeholder and will be altered slightly in step 6. Using the same placement across the two bars helps build up this concept of the second bar being an extension of the first.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature


Step 5

Double Up The Kick on count 5 in the second bar. This is just a simple decorative idea to make the part sound slightly more complex.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature


Step 6

The offbeat sixteenth kicks on count 3 are now turned into sixteenth triplets with the kicks on the second and third counts. So the triplet on count 3 will be played as a right hand followed by two kicks. It might be worth taking this movement and practising it separately as an exercise. This may start to give you grief at higher tempos.

Developing a two double time groove that switches time signature